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too hot to hike mid-late September?

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We have plans for Sept-21-28th, itinerary is first three nights in Zion, 2 nights in Bryce and two nights in St George. When I booked I did not expect to see temps still in the 90s in mid-late September. we have had above average heat and humidity here in MI and it has limited our outdoor activity as it wears me out. I'm really in a quandary about making this trip. We want to hike the Narrows for sure as well as other popular trails. We'll be awake early with the time change so can get an early start. We are staying at Cable Mountain Lodge in Springdale. Can we walk into the park at anytime?

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Mid-late September forecast St George mornings high 50's to low 60's F; Bryce cool to cold; Zion cool

Cable Mountain Lodge you can walk to the trails at the Visitor center anytime by crossing the bridge over the Virgin River: The Archeology Trail, Virgin River Nature Trail, Pa'rus Trail and the Watchman Trail. Just go in the early mornings before the heat of the day. To access the trails in the main canyon just get an early shuttle 6 am to avoid afternoon heat. Do keep track of poor air quality which you may encounter because of the western fires.

Things to do in St George:

1) Snow Canyon State Park - "the little Zion" You drive up the center of the park and park your car at each trailhead where you can do short hike to Jenny's slot canyon; Petrified Sand dunes trail, Cinder Cone Trail where you ascend a volcano to the summit; Lava Tubes Trail - bring headlamps and flashlights as some tubes ar long in the dark - see the park map here:

https://site.utah.gov/stateparks/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2018/05/Snow-Canyon-Brochure-2018_web.pdf

2) Pioneer Park and Red Hills Desert Garden - rock scrambling, 5,000 desert plants, a stream, replica slot canyon & dinosaur tracks, nice walking path of Utah plants and fish creek, see here:

http://redhillsdesertgarden.com/

3) St. George Dinosaur Discovery Site at Johnson Farm, see here:

https://utahdinosaurs.com/

4) tuacahn amphitheater - Broadway level shows in an outdoor amphitheater nestled within the red rock of St George. They use water misters to keep you cool. We returned for the 3x time this June to see Disney's Beauty and the Beast. See the show schedule here:

https://www.tuacahn.org/

You can see a preview of this show and their show quality here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzDWkQg691Y

5) Crystal hounding @ Glitter Mountain, see here:

https://www.facebook.com/GlitterMnt

call for directions - keep crystals up to 12" long !!

6) Kayenta Art Village - Fine Gift shopping - not junk - and garden cafe:

http://www.kayentautah.com/about/coyote-gulch-art-village/

7) Xetava garden cafe menu here:

https://www.xetava.com/

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thank you

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Well, lots and lots of people visit southern Utah in late September. It's still prime tourist season. St. George will be the hottest place you visit. Remember that the temps you see in online information are averages. It could be hotter and it could be cooler. Bryce is at 9000' above sea level and will be anywhere from 15 to 20 degrees cooler than Zion and St. George.

Your plan to get up early when visiting Zion is the best way to beat the heat. The Narrows will be cooler because you are in a canyon, hiking in water.

Yes, you can walk from Cable Mountain in to the park. In order to get to the Narrows trailhead or any other place on the scenic drive in the main canyon (Angel's landing for instance), you will have to take a shuttle bus from the visitor center.

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Post No. 2 temperatures are current long range forecasts - not "online information are averages"

Edited: 29 August 2021, 21:45
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Of course, SwimFan. I realize that. But average temps can be a guideline as to what to expect. The OP was asking if it's too hot to hike in mid-late September; not what the long term forecast was for that time frame. I don't know about North Carolina, but in this part of the country long term forecasts are not reliable. The only reliable forecasts are two to three days in advance. Either way, I think the OP has enough information to make an informed decision.

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yes, and forecasts based on current weather patterns are more useful. Instead of air temperatures - poor air quality may be more pressing due to western fires for travelers in September

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With three nights in Zion, you can really do a lot of exploring. Be sure to visit the East Side, going up the switchbacks and through the large tunnel. When you exit the tunnel you're at the TH for the Canyon Overlook hike, one of the better hike in Zion. From there you can explore many drainages. This is the best website for Zion.

https://citrusmilo.com/zionguide/

I think you'll have enough time to take the beautiful drive up Kolob Terrace Rd, really great in the late afternoon, evening. It starts out of Virgin, UT and goes 23 miles to the reservoir, 20 miles to the short spur road to Lava Pt. You go from 3500 ft to 8500 ft in those 23 miles and enter and exit Zion twice. There is hiking and exploring available.

I think you'll be surprised how comfortable it is without humidity. Our first trip was same time of year and we came from NJ. We did a lot more than we thought we would.

In St George, you might want to explore a little more than just that area. Snow Canyon is beautiful but gets extremely crowded and is by no means a "little Zion", it's Snow Canyon. Consider a drive up to Pine Valley, a nice little community with a recreation area. There is a reservoir and hiking trails. The paved river walk is really nice and it will be nice and cool. You'll pass through Veyo, stop for pie or pastries, highly recommended.

Consider these hikes, near St George, a little off the beaten path. Funny that it says the Vortex is heavily traveled, shows what social media does. I've done it three times and there were very few people. Fun to drive up RT 18 from St George, to the turn off for this. When finished continue on the main road and come down to the town of Gunlock, a left takes you past a reservoir and past Kayenta where you can stop at Xetava Gardens for a meal, maybe shop.

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/utah/the-vortex#:~:text=The%20Vortex%20is%20a%202.3%20mile%20heavily%20trafficked,miElevation%20gain%20524%20ftRoute%20type%20Out%20%26%20back

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/utah/yant-flats-trail

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"no means a "little Zion", add "mini-Zion to the little Zion designation then:

https://wildlandtrekking.com/blog/snow-canyon-its-a-mini-zion/

"Like Zion National Park?" - nice pictures of the park here:

https://www.camelsandchocolate.com/snow-canyon-zion-utah/

"Snow Canyon’s Navajo sandstone cliffs share the same history and geology as Zion National Park to the east. You may find yourself wondering why it isn't a national park."

https://www.visitutah.com/places-to-go/parks-outdoors/snow-canyon-state-park

"little Zion" = "mini-Zion

go early in the early morning to beat the crowds and heat !

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